Trinity Sunday discussion thread

So, did your pastor actually talk about the Trinity today?

Looking back on past Trinity Sundays, do you remember any especially good or bad experiences you’d like to share?

13 Responses

  1. Our homily was given by one of our parish’s seminarians, he was just ordained a deacon last Thursday. He’s a good orthodox guy, and his homily (which was his first) was actually about the Trinity. I was pleased. If it’s close by, I might start attending the parish he’s sent to when he’s ordained a priest.

  2. This year wasn’t bad for me. The priest argued that all members of the Trinity are needed to make Christianity “work”. It was about the Trinity, and it was true, so I’m happy.

    My worst experiences are all from Ithaca.

    One year, at Immaculate Conception, the priest started off saying that talking about the Trinity tends to end in heresy, so instead he told us about some Oscar Wilde children’s story about a grumpy giant who wouldn’t let children play in his yard, or something like that.

    Another year, at St. Catherine of Siena, some woman was preaching, and she decided to dismiss the doctrine of the day, because Christianity is really about having one’s life “touched by grace”, or some such vague sentimental fluff. So she told a story about how her grandfather (I might have the details wrong) was coming down with Alzheimer’s, and everyone was worried about what a burden he was was going to be. Then he got some crazy idea into his head, took the car he couldn’t safely drive, crashed it into a tree, and died. So, happy ending, I guess. Seriously, I have no idea what message we were supposed to get out of that, but the only thing I could see implied was that God had snuffed out grandpa before he got to be too much of a drag, so, hey, the Big Guy’s watching out for us.

    Looking back on it, it seems hard to believe that it was really that bad. I suppose it’s possible my memory is mixing up several homilies to form exemplars of awfulness, but that’s actually what I remember of the Trinity homilies.

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  4. I haven’t really taken note in the past of what the Trinity Sunday homilies have been about. The preaching at my parish is generally “be nice to people” type stuff, so I’d imagine that that’s been the case most Trinity Sundays.

    You’ve actually been to a parish where they let a woman give the homily?

  5. Yesterday’s homily was about the Trinity, but I didn’t figure that out until later in the afternoon. Our young priest works without notes, and if he has an outline in his head, he doesn’t let it get in the way saying something else. Reflecting on the various anecdotes that made up the homily, I eventually realized that they shared the common theme of relationships and sharing, and were were therefore likely meant to illustrate the inner dynamics of the Trinity. They weren’t bad analogies, but they would have been more effective if we had been told that they were analogies, not to mention what they were analogies of.

  6. I was actually serving (am the chair of my parish’s new Latin Mass Society), hence at the time of the homily was sitting about 10 feet behind and to the left of the celebrant, who spoke for 5 minutes with a thick Nigerian accent and without the aid of a microphone. So I couldn’t hear a lick of it, but the Mass propers for the Trinity Sunday are lovely enough and really speak for themselves.

    I echo ArkansasReactionary’s amazement that you’ve been to a parish where a woman preaches. Such an outrage would’ve made gotten me in one of those burn-this-parish-to-the-ground moods.

  7. When I was there, a couple of women seemed to be basically in charge. They would do announcements before and after Mass, and there was an African priest who would be brought out for the bits that really needed an actual priest. Sometimes I did have the urge to tell the priest that he really needed to put those women in their place.

  8. An actual cleric is needed to read the gospel and give the homily. It is a grave abuse for a lay person to do so.

  9. I go to an indult Mass,where the priest manages to distill Thomism into something readily understandable to people who have little formal training in Scholasticism.

    Of course a few weeks ago I was traveling and subjected to a Novus (dis)Ordo Mass where the deacon giving the “homily” just had to cite a story of a Buddhist master before whining about all the division in the Church, especially on the part of traditionalists.

  10. I attend Latin Mass parish, at least when I’m home on summer break. The first four words of the homily were “Saint Thomas Aquinas teaches.” However, I only began attending the parish after putting up with enough nonsense along the lines you described at my home parish. At the previous parish, I don’t think I heard a mention of the Trinity in the entire decade or so.

  11. I was on a retreat with the LifeTeens this past Sunday. The priest opened by explaining that the Trinity is three divine persons but one substance, and then moved on to how theology doesn’t matter as much as loving our neighbors and each other. At least he briefly touched on the doctrine. Some years I’ve heard priests skip directly to the touching story of how the little boy shared his ice cream cone with the homeless man.

  12. Shameless plug incoming. I’m asking my Catholic readers what they heard in the homily for today, the feast of Corpus Christi:

    One thing I didn’t mention on my blog was that the priest kinda sorta pooh poohed those superstitious old medievals with their processions (which us enlightened moderns don’t do anymore) and supposedly believing that if they gave the Host to their cows, they’d produce tastier milk. Even if they actually did that, which I strongly doubt, the average illiterate peasant had much stronger faith in the Real Presence than we do.

  13. That’s a rather bizarre myth. There’s certainly not any evidence for it.

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